[Whiplash]

I love fighting games. They are awesome. If I owned a ps3 I would most likely play MvC3 on a competitive level. That being said, I think we need to keep the club to PC games. If they want to play the fighting games on the comp (like SSFIV) then I think its ok, but consoles are a no go ghostrider.

[Blaze]

Alright so I just kinda skimmed the thread, and from what I gather most people are OK with consoles as long as:
1)they are not noisy
2)no PC gamer has to sacrifice anything to deal with consoles
3)the club is not officially responsible/in charge.

From what I gather some people want to change #3, and have official club consoles (gamestop etc) and some don't want consoles at all.

also:
Oen you said:

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So setting up more games that people will play by themselves, will help improve the idea of a LAN, where people should be playing games together and socializing?

on the topic of fighting games, by definition you cannot play them by yourself (or if you do its rather pointless), I don't think this will be a major issue, Although I could see if you had a problem with the "stereotypical fighting game player."

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There always seems to be someone willing to bring it, which is a concern. Do you start telling people no? Then turning people away? That won't give a good image that you are denying some games but not others and so on....

I think this can be addressed by simply make rules for whats allowed, allow any game that is multiplayer, is not too loud, and doesn't have extra space requirements.

That being said, I see your side, and understand that this is #1 a PC gaming club, and that should be the focus of officers/staff.

My opinion is that we should allow a "console" type thing as an official thing, with the condition that if it becomes "too big" it will splinter off into its own club (too big in this case meaning it is capable of becoming its own entity). This will allow those interested in the console part to gauge interest in the console stuff before going off and completely forming their own club.

[Cyragar]

Blaze, on 07 January 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

My opinion is that we should allow a "console" type thing as an official thing, with the condition that if it becomes "too big" it will splinter off into its own club (too big in this case meaning it is capable of becoming its own entity). This will allow those interested in the console part to gauge interest in the console stuff before going off and completely forming their own club.

This. Also, I'll volunteer now to form the club when the time comes.

[Oen386]

Blaze, on 07 January 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

My opinion is that we should allow a "console" type thing as an official thing, with the condition that if it becomes "too big" it will splinter off into its own club (too big in this case meaning it is capable of becoming its own entity). This will allow those interested in the console part to gauge interest in the console stuff before going off and completely forming their own club.

Already addressed this. There is no reason to "gauge interest". Gamestop has held multiple tournaments around each major game launch. Halo I think had like 30 something people at the tournament, and those that weren't at the tournament, probably 50-100, were in line to purchase the next release.

Also how can you define "too big"?

Lastly, the discussion never stated it would only be fighting games. As I stated I have seen members of anime club show up, and I shit you not, play Super Nintendo (I think Kirby?) by themselves on a TV. Now that wasn't the whole time, but still, that can be an issue. Some FPS's only do 2 players per screen for LAN, so multiple TVs would be required and networked to really do a tournament. Halo is 4 a screen, GoW3 I believe is still only 2. My point being, anything outside a fighting game tournament can instantly double or triple the setup and required gear. :/

In short, clearly there are enough console gamers to warrant a club, someone needs to just step up and do it, it shouldn't be another club's responsibility because they are too lazy. Hell you guys already have to pull teeth to get enough officers to run LANKnights, and now you want to give them more tasks that our outside the scope/purpose of the club?

Last note... prizes. Someone is going to have to spend time and effort getting prizes for console tournaments. This is time that could be spent getting prizes for PC tournaments. So there are sacrifices no matter how small you might think they are.

This post has been edited by Oen386: 07 January 2012 - 06:58 PM

[elcoco]

I have SSF4 in my PC and I AM FOR THIS IDEA!!!

[Daman]

Oen386, on 07 January 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

In short, clearly there are enough console gamers to warrant a club, someone needs to just step up and do it, it shouldn't be another club's responsibility because they are too lazy. Hell you guys already have to pull teeth to get enough officers to run LANKnights, and now you want to give them more tasks that our outside the scope/purpose of the club? :

no the hope would be that this might be a bit of a panacea for that as well with another tap of people to draw from

[TerranUp16]

Daman, on 07 January 2012 - 07:32 PM, said:

no the hope would be that this might be a bit of a panacea for that as well with another tap of people to draw from

You're going to need to explain the panacea part.

[Daman]

TerranUp16, on 07 January 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

You're going to need to explain the panacea part.

is this what you want?

if you mean the pulling teeth to get officers to run for lanknights well uh that's sort of self explanatory??

[Oen386]

Daman, on 07 January 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

is this what you want?

if you mean the pulling teeth to get officers to run for lanknights well uh that's sort of self explanatory??

While it might remedy getting more people, they would be people with a different focus for the club.

[TerranUp16]

Oen386, on 07 January 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

While it might remedy getting more people, they would be people with a different focus for the club.

Exactly, it doesn't remedy anything.

[Brain?!]

Oen386, on 07 January 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

While it might remedy getting more people, they would be people with a different focus for the club.

TerranUp16, on 07 January 2012 - 09:45 PM, said:

Exactly, it doesn't remedy anything.

Agreed. No point in expanding the PC Gaming Club if, in the process, it ceases to be the PC Gaming Club.

[Raven191]

I agree that console gaming could be a bad idea if we have to split up the resources or have a separate room. Also console gaming could get quite loud seeing as usually you don't wear headphones with the TV like many do with their PCs. But I suppose the only way to find out if it'll be good or bad is to do it once and just see what it's like.

[Oen386]

xkrauser, on 08 January 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

I suppose the only way to find out if it'll be good or bad is to do it once and just see what it's like.

There isn't a question about interest. It has been done. We have hosted events with Anime Club, where they supplied consoles. Also Gamestop has tournaments whenever they launch a new game. There is always interest. There is no reason to run a test event. Even doing that, will require marketing, and time/effort put forward promoting a console tournament, rather than finding prizes for PC tournaments, or arranging more PC events.

The question is, are the members of LANKnights interested in taking up running console events, as there doesn't seem to be a club focused on it or anyone willing to start a club.

[Daman]

Oen386, on 08 January 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:

as there doesn't seem to be a club focused on it or anyone willing to start a club.

I think the general idea of "can you guys do consoles" should be met with this response, in the future, tbh. "Start a club for it!"

[cyb.tachyon]

Daman, on 08 January 2012 - 07:51 PM, said:

I think the general idea of "can you guys do consoles" should be met with this response, in the future, tbh. "Start a club for it!"

I think the general response of "Start a club for it!" has been our reply, in the past, tbh. "we get one of these 2-3 times a year"

[Avalon]

Well, having joined the club in '05, I can tell you that organized console anything never resulted in an improved or better integrated atmosphere/experience for the club. The consensus was that we were bigger and louder, and that's about it. Generally what tended to happen was that the console gamers did not care about PC gaming and stayed away, and stuff got stolen...

Having a couple consoles at a LAN for people who enjoy both platforms is a nice break, but historically trying to make it more than that has failed, over several administrations. Take what you will from that.

This post has been edited by Avalon: 13 January 2012 - 11:41 PM

[Rickenwing]

Results from the meeting:

Consoles will be on a BYOC (bring your own console) status to events, where consoles and games have to be approved by staff. General consensus was most games are ok, only games that are pretty much not, are rhythm games. Next lan will be a test run for this system and we will have to revote next member meeting to confirm the way in which we handle consoles.

TL;DR Consoles are fine, ask staff first, staff are not responsible for your consoles, don't be loud.

[MajorLag]

Rickenwing, on 03 February 2012 - 01:24 AM, said:

Results from the meeting:

Consoles will be on a BYOC (bring your own console) status to events, where consoles and games have to be approved by staff. General consensus was most games are ok, only games that are pretty much not, are rhythm games. Next lan will be a test run for this system and we will have to revote next member meeting to confirm the way in which we handle consoles.

TL;DR Consoles are fine, ask staff first, staff are not responsible for your consoles, don't be loud.

It was more than that. If a member wants to host a tournament at a LAN, and the staff okay it for space/games, then they are free to do it. If the member wants to put the event on the LAN flyers, than it'll be done. This is only for the next LAN. At the next member meeting (shortly after the next LAN) a vote will be taken to either extend the duration of that rule, or to just let it die.