[TerranUp16]

'cuz you all know the shoutbox was going to get trashed (and still will).

LANK Platoon

Anyway, since Battlelog is up... here are the unlocks:

Assault

• M16A3 (US default)
  
• AK-74M (Russian default)
  
• Defibs (4000 score; aka you'll get them very fast)
  
• M320 (11,000 score)
  
• M416 (22,000 score)
  
• M26 MASS (38,000 score)
  
• AEK-971 (60,000 score)
  
• "M16A4" (89,000 score; almost certainly incorrect)
  
• F2000 (124,000 score)
  
• AN-94 (166,000 score)
  
• AK-74M (222,000 score; unlocked for American usage)
  
• M16A3 (222,000 score; unlocked for Russian usage)
  
• KH-2002 (126,000 CO-OP score)
  
• G3A3 (441,000 CO-OP score)

Engineer

• M4A1 (US default)
  
• AKS-74u (Russian default)
  
• SMAW (US default)
  
• RPG-7V2 (Russian default)
  
• SA-18 IGLA (3000 score, Russian)
  
• FIM-92 Stinger (3000 score, American)
  
• M15 AT Mine (7000 score)
  
• SCAR-H (14,000 score)
  
• EOD Bot (25,000 score)
  
• "M4" (4000 score; almost certainly incorrect; sits where Javelin sat in beta)
  
• A-91 (58,000 score)
  
• FGM-148 Javelin (82,000 score)
  
• G36C (110,000 score)
  
• M4A1 (145,000 score; unlocked for Russian usage)
  
• ASK-74u (145,000 score; unlocked for American usage)
  
• SG553 (378,000 CO-OP score)

Support

• M27 IAR (US default)
  
• RPK-74M (Russian default)
  
• C4 Explosives (4000 score)
  
• M249 (11,000 score)
  
• M18 Claymore (23,000 score)
  
• M224 Mortar (40,000 score)
  
• PKP Pecheneg (60,000 score)
  
• M240B (90,000 score)
  
• M60E4 (130,000 score)
  
• M27 IAR (170,000 score; unlocked for Russian usage)
  
• RPK-74M (170,000 score; unlocked for American usage)

Recon

• MK11 Mod 0 (US default)
  
• SVD (Russian default)
  
• T-UGS (5000 score)
  
• SV-98 (13,000 score)
  
• SOFLAM (26,000 score)
  
• MAV (45,000 score)
  
• SKS (71,000 score)
  
• M40A5 (104,000 score)
  
• M98B (146,000 score)
  
• MK11 Mod 0 (195,000 score; unlocked for Russian usage)
  
• SVD (195,000 score; unlocked for American usage)
  
• M39 EMR (252,000 CO-OP score)

General

• 870MCS (rank 1)
  
• G17C (rank 4)
  
• PP-2000 (rank 7)
  
• M9 Tact (rank 10)
  
• MP443 Tact (rank 13)
  
• UMP-45 (rank 16)
  
• G17C Supp (rank 19)
  
• M1014 (rank 22)
  
• M9 Supp (rank 25)
  
• MP443 Supp (rank 28)
  
• G18 (rank 30)
  
• PDW-R (rank 32)
  
• SAIGA 12K (rank 34)
  
• .44 Magnum (rank 36)
  
• DAO-12 (rank 38)
  
• P90 (rank 40)
  
• G18 Supp (rank 41)
  
• USAS-12 (rank 43)
  
• .44 Scoped (rank 44)
  
• AS VAL (rank 45)
  
• MP412 REX (63,000 CO-OP score)
  
• MP7 (189,000 CO-OP score)
  
• 93R (315,000 CO-OP score)

Specializations

• SPRINT (rank 2)
  
• AMMO (rank 5)
  
• FLAK (rank 8)
  
• EXPL (rank 11)
  
• COVR (rank 14)
  
• SUPR (rank 17)
  
• FRAG (rank 20)
  
• SQD SPRINT (rank 23)
  
• SQD AMMO (rank 26)
  
• SQD FLAK (rank 29)
  
• SQD EXPL (rank 31)
  
• SQD SUPR (rank 33)
  
• SQD COVR (rank 35)
  
• SQD FRAG (rank 37)

Air Helicopter Scout

• IR Flares (400 score)
  
• Heat Seekers (1200 score)
  
• Stealth (2500 score)
  
• Belt Speed (4400 score)
  
• Proximity Scan (7000 score)
  
• Air Radar (10,000 score)
  
• Extinguisher (14,000 score)
  
• Maintenance (19,000 score)
  
• Guided Missile (25,000 score)
  
• Below Radar (32,000 score)
  
• Laser Painter (40,000 score)
  
• ECM Jammer (48,000 score)

Air Jet Attack

• IR Flares (300 score)
  
• Heat Seekers (700 score)
  
• Stealth (1500 score)
  
• Belt Speed (2700 score)
  
• Proximity Scan (4200 score)
  
• Rocket Pods (6200 score)
  
• Air Radar (8600 score)
  
• Extinguisher (11,600 score)
  
• Below Radar (15,000 score)
  
• Maintenance (19,000 score)
  
• Guided Missile (24,000 score)
  
• Beam Scanning (29,000 score)
  
• ECM Jammer (35,000 score)

Infantry Fighting Vehicle

• IR Smoke (800 score)
  
• ATGM Launcher (2300 score)
  
• Belt Speed (4700 score)
  
• Coaxial LMG (8300 score)
  
• Thermal Optics (13,100 score)
  
• Proximity Scan (19,200 score)
  
• Zoom Optics (26,900 score)
  
• Maintenance (36,000 score)
  
• APFSDS-T Shell (47,000 score)
  
• Thermal Camo (60,000 score)
  
• Guided Missile (74,000 score)
  
• Reactive Armor (90,000 score)

Air Helicopter Attack

• IR Flares (300 score)
  
• Heat Seekers (800 score)
  
• Stealth (1600 score)
  
• Autoloader (2800 score)
  
• Zoom Optics (4400 score)
  
• Proximity Scan (6500 score)
  
• Air Radar (9000 score)
  
• Guided Missile (12,000 score)
  
• Extinguisher (16,000 score)
  
• Maintenance (20,000 score)
  
• Thermal Optics (25,000 score)
  
• Laser Painter (30,500 score)
  
• Below Radar (37,000 score)
  
• ECM Jammer (44,000 score)
  
• Guided Rocket (51,000 score)
  
• TV Missile (60,000 score)

Main Battle Tanks

• IR Smoke (800 score)
  
• Coaxial LMG (2100 score)
  
• Autoloader (4400 score)
  
• Zoom Optics (7600 score)
  
• Maintenance (12,000 score)
  
• Coaxial HMG (17,700 score)
  
• Proximity Scan (24,700 score)
  
• Guided Shell (33,200 score)
  
• Thermal Optics (43,200 score)
  
• Thermal Camo (54,800 score)
  
• Canister Shell (68,100 score)
  
• Reactive Armor (83,200 score)
  
• CITV Station (100,000 score)

Anti Air

• IR Smoke (400 score)
  
• Anti-Air Missile (1200 score)
  
• Belt Speed (2500 score)
  
• Zoom Optics (4400 score)
  
• Proximity Scan (7000 score)
  
• Thermal Optics (10,000 score)
  
• Air Radar (14,000 score)
  
• Maintenance (19,000 score)
  
• Thermal Camo (25,000 score)
  
• Reactive Armor (32,000 score)

This post has been edited by TerranUp16: 24 October 2011 - 02:54 PM

[Brain?!]

TerranUp16, on 24 October 2011 - 01:58 PM, said:

[*]"M16A4" (89,000 score; almost certainly incorrect)

This is most likely supposed to be the Steyr AUG. That was announced as an unlock, and was on the unlock list during beta, but does not appear anywhere else on the list.

[TerranUp16]

Ah, true. Would definitely like to see the AUG so that would sit well with me. I've also seen the M82A3 sniper rifle being floated around quite a bit as well, so dunno if we'll see that too or not.

This, among other things, is what suggests the M82A3. But it also has a P90 variant that doesn't seem to be implemented, the AT4, and T44 (interestingly, no AUG; note that the Type 88 is included in the Physical Warfare package).

[Brain?!]

Another question... what does the "CO-OP score" indicate? For instance, the KH-2002 requires "126,000 CO-OP score." Does this mean 126,000 points in the co-op campaign? Or 126,000 teamwork points (i.e. points earned from healing teammates, providing ammo, getting kill assists, etc.)?

[TerranUp16]

Co-op campaign.

[Daman]

join this http://battlelog.bat...55240977381039/

add me as a friend

[Brain?!]

TerranUp16, on 24 October 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

Co-op campaign.

I approve.

[Joga]

64-man Operation Metro conquest is the most retarded thing in the world. It's literally just nade spam. And nothing else. It's nice that you can play 64-man on any map, but some maps just aren't designed to hold that many players.

[TerranUp16]

o_0

64 player RUSH of that in beta on naughty servers didn't degrade to 'nade spam.

[Brain?!]

TerranUp16, on 24 October 2011 - 06:46 PM, said:

o_0

64 player RUSH of that in beta on naughty servers didn't degrade to 'nade spam.

There was a decent amount of grenades on certain areas of that map, particularly at the first points. That being said, the Battlefield series doesn't really lend itself to 'nade spam since players are limited in the amount of grenades they can carry (nothing as bad as Call of Duty's 3-frags-per-player).

[Joga]

TerranUp16, on 24 October 2011 - 06:46 PM, said:

o_0

64 player RUSH of that in beta on naughty servers didn't degrade to 'nade spam.

It's 'cause the map design is awful. Basically Russians win. Always. Each team starts on either side of the subway, 3 points with B in the middle. There are only THREE entrances into B, all wide staircases leading down, and all three are visible from the point. No flanking paths, no nothing. Russians start on the high ground, so they pretty much automatically get to capture B, and from that point US has no chance.

Everyone just spawns on B (or their squads at B ) and mows down anything that dares try to go up the stairs. Just keep tossing nades and rockets down the stairs and US can't do shit. It's dumb.

[Daman]

yeah map design in bf3 is overall really bad

[Messer]

SP is a mixed bag. Heavily scripted, which is an okay thing, but I hate how inconsistent it is with the role it wants you to play in your squad. It lets you take point at times, and makes you the guy who can open doors (but only the ones it wants you to), but it also knocks you out of the way of the cover the ai squad mates were supposed to take. WTF? Why can I run faster than everyone else if I'm supposed to stay behind everyone?

[Deron]

Multiplayer is fun so far, but holy fucking quick-time-events batman. That shit gets old fast. (campaign)

[TerranUp16]

Yeah, just finished the campaign on hard. Some facepalm areas with level design + checkpoints. Saving grace is that the game looks frickin' amazing maxed out at 1920x1200. That, and the tank combat in Thunder Run was awesome. Imo, there are two ways to do tank combat right, and if you're not going to do what Red Orchestra 2 did, then you'd better get the speed and adrenaline of driving an Abrams right and they did.

[ibfreeekout]

TerranUp16, on 25 October 2011 - 01:34 PM, said:

Yeah, just finished the campaign on hard. Some facepalm areas with level design + checkpoints. Saving grace is that the game looks frickin' amazing maxed out at 1920x1200. That, and the tank combat in Thunder Run was awesome. Imo, there are two ways to do tank combat right, and if you're not going to do what Red Orchestra 2 did, then you'd better get the speed and adrenaline of driving an Abrams right and they did.

My two favorite parts of the campaign were the Aircraft carrier section (specifically, walking onto the flight deck of the carrier and then jumping into the cockpit) and Thunder Run. Game looks SOOOOOO amazing. Glad I got that 580 after all

[AZNguyen]

I like the tank combat in World of Tanks over BF and RO. It's a mix of arcade + simulation. Arcade controls for the tank. Then there are simulation stuff like armor penetration specs, multiple round types, angled slopes that actually deflect rounds, non-cookie cutter tanks, and etc. I would say skip RO if you're playing it just for the tanks and play World of Tanks instead.

One thing I noticed about BF3 is there are a lot of icons on screen. I wish there was a toggle on/off HUD button like in RO2. Icons are always where the enemy are in my case. I must have bad luck. Then the minimap icons just become a big blur of white squares. Not very useful for distinguishing what is what.

This post has been edited by krazyxazn: 25 October 2011 - 02:13 PM

[ibfreeekout]

krazyxazn, on 25 October 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

I like the tank combat in World of Tanks over BF and RO. It's a mix of arcade + simulation. Arcade controls for the tank. Then there are simulation stuff like armor penetration specs, multiple round types, angled slopes that actually deflect rounds, non-cookie cutter tanks, and etc. I would say skip RO if you're playing it just for the tanks and play World of Tanks instead.

One thing I noticed about BF3 is there are a lot of icons on screen. I wish there was a toggle on/off HUD button like in RO2. Icons are always where the enemy are in my case. I must have bad luck. Then the minimap icons just become a big blur of white squares. Not very useful for distinguishing what is what.

Another World of Tanks player?!?!?! I thought I was one of the few!

Anyway, I'm going to be trying out a hardcore BF3 server once I get off of work, so hopefully that will be a little better in regards to icons on screen and what not. Although myself, Gamma, Joga, and doomz were all having a hell of a time capturing points as a squad last night. Got so many points in just 3 rounds. 'Tis a ton of fun.

[TerranUp16]

Eh. Point about Thunder Run was really just that. Haven't played MP-MP yet other than beta so not commenting on it.

That said, RO2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WoT.

[AZNguyen]

You guys may want to manually update PB.

PB's Site for download v3.4
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