[Badviper22]

Anyone know where to find the best graphic benchmark charts of all the most popular gpus in use?

Also, on topic, I'm thinking about selling my 9800 GTX+ for a Radeon 5770. I don't know if it's much of an upgrade that's worth it. While the 5770 has 800 stream processors with an 875 Mhz core clock, the GTX+ has almost double the memory clock and is 256 bit, and the 5770 is 128 bit. I just don't know if I should sell and upgrade if it isn't worth the hassle.

[Jtrain]

Badviper22, on 24 March 2010 - 12:05 AM, said:

Anyone know where to find the best graphic benchmark charts of all the most popular gpus in use?

Also, on topic, I'm thinking about selling my 9800 GTX+ for a Radeon 5770. I don't know if it's much of an upgrade that's worth it. While the 5770 has 800 stream processors with an 875 Mhz core clock, the GTX+ has almost double the memory clock and is 256 bit, and the 5770 is 128 bit. I just don't know if I should sell and upgrade if it isn't worth the hassle.

I'd say check tomshardware.com. From personal knowledge i'm pretty sure the 5770 is on par with a 4890. IF your willin to spend a bit more you might check into a 5830.

[SniperX]

Badviper22, on 24 March 2010 - 01:05 AM, said:

Anyone know where to find the best graphic benchmark charts of all the most popular gpus in use?

Also, on topic, I'm thinking about selling my 9800 GTX+ for a Radeon 5770. I don't know if it's much of an upgrade that's worth it. While the 5770 has 800 stream processors with an 875 Mhz core clock, the GTX+ has almost double the memory clock and is 256 bit, and the 5770 is 128 bit. I just don't know if I should sell and upgrade if it isn't worth the hassle.

Yea, the upgrade is going to be negligible for the cash spent, either bust into the 5830-5830 or the 280 or up series. Honestly though I say keep the 9800 for another 6 months or so and wait for something to hit a good sale price.

[Bucu]

negative on the 5830....


I run the 5770 and it does just fine for all the newest games out there. IF you are stuck between 4890 and 5770 go with the 5770 trust me. You get the dx11 support so it is semi future proof. Plus in about a year I'd put prices down around $120 so you can pick up a second and xfire it. This card is an excellent xfire card shows huge performance gains.


That's my opinion. Do what you want. Personally all those cards will do just fine and handle any game you through at it.

[Bucu]

Bucu, on 24 March 2010 - 09:06 AM, said:

negative on the 5830....


I run the 5770 and it does just fine for all the newest games out there. IF you are stuck between 4890 and 5770 go with the 5770 trust me. You get the dx11 support so it is semi future proof. Plus in about a year I'd put prices down around $120 so you can pick up a second and xfire it. This card is an excellent xfire card shows huge performance gains.


That's my opinion. Do what you want. Personally all those cards will do just fine and handle any game you through at it.

Continuing my train of thought:

If you are not running at least a c2d cpu time to upgrade.
If you are not running a phenomII processor from amd time to upgrade.
If you are running anything HD less than 7200 RPM time to upgrade. (i personally love raptors in raid 0)
if you are not running atleast 4gb of ddr2/3 time to upgrade.

Again IMO these are also just as important.

[Badviper22]

Thanks for the responses guys!

Found another Lanknight member to buy my GTX+ off me (He's gonna Sli two GTX+'s, good fer him!), and I'm gonna go ahead and spend the extra buck to pick up a Sapphire HD 5830.

Opinions of the Sapphire company anyone?

[SniperX]

I'ma just leave dis here... k? http://slickdeals.ne...hreadid=1935748

[Badviper22]

Bucu, on 24 March 2010 - 10:10 AM, said:

Continuing my train of thought:

If you are not running at least a c2d cpu time to upgrade.
If you are not running a phenomII processor from amd time to upgrade.
If you are running anything HD less than 7200 RPM time to upgrade. (i personally love raptors in raid 0)
if you are not running atleast 4gb of ddr2/3 time to upgrade.

Again IMO these are also just as important.

I was taking time to type my response before I saw yours, from personal experience do you think it would be smarter/give more performance to crossfire two 5770's than getting one 5830? I'm still a bit(ha, get it?) confused on the difference between 128 bit and 256 bit gpus. I'm not trying to challenge you, just trying to make the right decision.

Also, I'm running a Phen II BE 3.4, 1600 Mhz ddr3, 850watt psu, 7.2k rpm WD caviar, so I think all thats up to par.

[ibfreeekout]

I would actually recommend you stay away from the 5830. I've read that it uses more power than a 5850 for performance that isn't on par with it. Full power consumption (normally) for a 5850 is around 150-160 W, whereas the 5830 uses around 175-180W. In actual performance benchmarks the 5770 is not far off of the 5830, only by maybe 3-5 FPS. I've been running a Sapphire 5770 Vapor-X and it's been great so far. Runs every game I own on max settings at nice resolutions, and with the added benefit from Vapor-X, I never see it rise above 55-60 degrees C. If I were you, I would either go with the 5770 or the 5850 and not bother with the 5830.

Link to source information: MaximumPC HD 5830 Performance Review

[TerranUp16]

Maximum didn't just get a bum 5830 or something, did they?

[H]'s review fyi

[ibfreeekout]

TerranUp16, on 24 March 2010 - 11:36 AM, said:

Maximum didn't just get a bum 5830 or something, did they?

[H]'s review fyi

Reading that article makes me want to believe that MaximumPC got a bad one. I kinda wish I waited a bit longer now lol.

[Badviper22]

ibfreeekout, on 24 March 2010 - 11:23 AM, said:

I would actually recommend you stay away from the 5830. I've read that it uses more power than a 5850 for performance that isn't on par with it. Full power consumption (normally) for a 5850 is around 150-160 W, whereas the 5830 uses around 175-180W. In actual performance benchmarks the 5770 is not far off of the 5830, only by maybe 3-5 FPS. I've been running a Sapphire 5770 Vapor-X and it's been great so far. Runs every game I own on max settings at nice resolutions, and with the added benefit from Vapor-X, I never see it rise above 55-60 degrees C. If I were you, I would either go with the 5770 or the 5850 and not bother with the 5830.

Link to source information: MaximumPC HD 5830 Performance Review

It seems like going with a 5770 and getting another one in 6 months - year to crossfire is a better decision. I was looking up the Sapphire Vapor X and a few concerns came to mind, one was having the 5750 bios installed (which from what I read is a relatively simple fix), and the card locking up/black dots & vertical lines/GSOD. Doesn't seem that reliable from what I'm collecting. Then again, everyone happy with theirs probably won't say anything, and everyone who gets a dud will rant for years to come.


However the Xfx 5770 XXX edition looks pretty smooth. I was looking for people with the same mobo as me (Asus M4A79XTD evo) to see if there were any problems, and so far shitty old driver lock up was all I could see. Meh, I'll start the sucker in safe mode and get the driver from ATI myself to avoid that. Anyone here use Xfx?

[Gamma]

Yep, I got the XFX 5850 Black Edition and it is a boat full of win. If you can, wait for the NVIDIA cards to come out and see what actual performance specs are going to be. The price may drop on the ATi cards, or you might find that you may want to go NVIDIA again.

[ibfreeekout]

Just thought I'd put this in here for the lulz. Sapphire just released a new 5850 Toxic Edition that comes with 2 GB of GDDR5 memory instead of just 1 GB. It's also overclocked a bit out of the factory compared to the reference 5850 and it comes with the Vapor-X cooling. Has a very nice design as well. One caveat, it's just under $400...

[Avalon]

Definitely do not go with the 5830. It is a steaming pile of shit. Its only purpose is for AMD to wring money out of harvested dies that were so poor (thank TSMC) they couldn't even make it into a 5850. The price difference between the 5830 and 5770 is absolutely insane, and the performance difference just isn't there.

[Bucu]

Badviper22, on 24 March 2010 - 09:59 AM, said:

I was taking time to type my response before I saw yours, from personal experience do you think it would be smarter/give more performance to crossfire two 5770's than getting one 5830? I'm still a bit(ha, get it?) confused on the difference between 128 bit and 256 bit gpus. I'm not trying to challenge you, just trying to make the right decision.

Also, I'm running a Phen II BE 3.4, 1600 Mhz ddr3, 850watt psu, 7.2k rpm WD caviar, so I think all thats up to par.

This is exactly what I am going to do. I have the 5770 I bought when my 4850 fried. I plan to xfire it prolly end of this year. The xfire performance like I said is incredible best performing chipset for the xfire yet IMO. It will definently blow the 5830 out of the water.

Stand alone the 5830 might eek out the 5770 at a single card comparison but i think you really give up a lot going with a budget card **which the 5830 make no mistake is a budget card**

Badviper22, on 24 March 2010 - 11:55 AM, said:

It seems like going with a 5770 and getting another one in 6 months - year to crossfire is a better decision. I was looking up the Sapphire Vapor X and a few concerns came to mind, one was having the 5750 bios installed (which from what I read is a relatively simple fix), and the card locking up/black dots & vertical lines/GSOD. Doesn't seem that reliable from what I'm collecting. Then again, everyone happy with theirs probably won't say anything, and everyone who gets a dud will rant for years to come.


However the Xfx 5770 XXX edition looks pretty smooth. I was looking for people with the same mobo as me (Asus M4A79XTD evo) to see if there were any problems, and so far shitty old driver lock up was all I could see. Meh, I'll start the sucker in safe mode and get the driver from ATI myself to avoid that. Anyone here use Xfx?

I have the Saphire card but not the vapor x I heard bad things about it. I just got the standard juniper chip with no frills. Sapphire is an excellent brand it was the same for my 9800pro back in the day and that card was a champ!!!

This post has been edited by Bucu: 24 March 2010 - 05:02 PM

[Badviper22]

WTF IS WITH ATI AND THIS GRAY SCREEN/VERTICAL LINE CRAP

I'm still gonna get a 5770 from xfx, but reading all about the vertical line symptoms after playing makes me a lil bit nervous about leaving nvidia. But no one here seems to have those issues so it must be a small percentage...

[SniperX]

Badviper22, on 24 March 2010 - 06:28 PM, said:

WTF IS WITH ATI AND THIS GRAY SCREEN/VERTICAL LINE CRAP

I'm still gonna get a 5770 from xfx, but reading all about the vertical line symptoms after playing makes me a lil bit nervous about leaving nvidia. But no one here seems to have those issues so it must be a small percentage...

People who are angry scream louder and more often than people who are content.

[TerranUp16]

SniperX, on 24 March 2010 - 06:49 PM, said:

People who are angry scream louder and more often than people who are content.

That's what Microsoft said about X360 Red Rings of Death before it was found that the X360 failure rate was 50% until Jasper...

[SniperX]

TerranUp16, on 24 March 2010 - 08:46 PM, said:

That's what Microsoft said about X360 Red Rings of Death before it was found that the X360 failure rate was 50% until Jasper...

and yet when I pull up a retailer such as newegg and see 86% 4 star or better, I figure that's an alright card. As I further read into the "Lawl I overclocked it and shit was unstable on my 300 watt psu, I don't get it?" comments I remove them. All in all this card has a high margin of working fine and performing well. Hence:

I'm angry, I'm going to yell now.