[Zenebatos]

So, for those of you who do not know, the Pirate Bay's tracker went offline a few days back. According to TPB's management, BitTorrent trackers are a thing of the past now: DHT networks are the present and the future. But it doesn't stop there, according to an insider in TPB, management has also sent out letters to administrator of other big Trackers telling them to shut the tracker down and begin supporting Magnet Links.

Here's a link to the article:
http://torrentfreak....or-good-091117/

Here's another article I found this at:
http://lifehacker.co...links-explained

I myself did not understand the whole idea behind a tracker, I mean why use them when applications like Kazaa, BearShare, and Limewire worked just fine( _____in the good old days that is____) without the inclusion of trackers in the whole mix. Then again, hash checks in bit torrent are sex for finishing incomplete downloads. <3

[Avalon]

Meh, all that has happened is that the underlying technology to connect to peers has changed. We're still "torrenting."

[Joga]

What Avalon said. All of these changes are under-the-hood things, practically transparent to the end user. I can still go the thepiratebay.com and download torrents just fine. (to the mods: of legal things! I swear!)

[Bucu]

Joga said:

What Avalon said. All of these changes are under-the-hood things, practically transparent to the end user. I can still go the thepiratebay.com and download torrents just fine. (to the mods: of legal things! I swear!)

speak for yourself

[Bucu]

Bucu said:

speak for yourself

I did. O snap!!!

[Destroyer1990]

I will consider the possibility of torrents being basically dead when Demonoid officially closes. Now if it would hurry and get back online, that'd be swell.

[ch33s3r]

Zenebatos, what movie is that permabanned gif from? I want to watch it just for that scene. It looks epic :D

[Zenebatos]

ch33s3r said:

Zenebatos, what movie is that permabanned gif from? I want to watch it just for that scene. It looks epic :D

I haven't the slightest clue. Found it on a thread on 4chat months ago, lol. I'm more interested in knowing what movie the bullet bill apocalypse gif is from though xD

[Zuccolo]

PirateBay was nice, but there are a lot of other trackers sites that I use. The best ones are the ones for which you have to register, usually because there's better chances of dedicated seeders, especially on older trackers.

[Rickenwing]

I think it's actually a very good thing. Decentralization makes tracking people downloading harder.

[ninjafish]

so how exactly does DHT work? If I was looking for an iso how would i find the appropriate magnet link?

[Oen386]

The Pirate Bay?

[Gamma]

ninjafish said:

so how exactly does DHT work? If I was looking for an iso how would i find the appropriate magnet link?

Magnet links are basically a hash signature of the files you are looking for. Normally a torrent file would contain information for you of what you are going to download. A magnet link only contains the hash. They'll have to be either given to you or available on the site you are looking at.

From what I understand DHT works by originally contacting a bootstrap address (for utorrent it is router.utorrent.org) which contains a table of hashes to peers. When you connect to other peers, they may have additional DHTs, which contain more peers. This in combination with Peer Exchange (PEX), which gets new peers from peers you are connected to, can help map out all the peers on a given torrent.

What I don't understand is why you see like 500 peers/seeds for a file, but you only connect to like 20 of them. Why can't you connect to all of them?

[Destroyer1990]

That's something I've always wondered, myself. I sometimes get like 5000 seeders and 25000 leechers, and I'll download from like 3/7 at 20 kb/s.

[Zuccolo]

gammasts said:

What I don't understand is why you see like 500 peers/seeds for a file, but you only connect to like 20 of them. Why can't you connect to all of them?

The only explanation of which I can think is the seeders to whom you cannot connect have already reached their limit on connections.

[prosun21]

One tracker dies... another tracker takes it's place... RIP Piratebay & Mininova (who went Content Distribution)

[Zuccolo]

prosun21 said:

One tracker dies... another tracker takes it's place... RIP Piratebay & Mininova (who went Content Distribution)

Crap, you're right. Mininova is down. Oh well. I still have a few other sites left. Damn Dutch...

[Zenebatos]

gammasts said:

Magnet links are basically a hash signature of the files you are looking for. Normally a torrent file would contain information for you of what you are going to download. A magnet link only contains the hash. They'll have to be either given to you or available on the site you are looking at.

From what I understand DHT works by originally contacting a bootstrap address (for utorrent it is router.utorrent.org) which contains a table of hashes to peers. When you connect to other peers, they may have additional DHTs, which contain more peers. This in combination with Peer Exchange (PEX), which gets new peers from peers you are connected to, can help map out all the peers on a given torrent.

What I don't understand is why you see like 500 peers/seeds for a file, but you only connect to like 20 of them. Why can't you connect to all of them?

Yeah, but is it possible for websites to determine how any seeders/leechers there are in a specific magnet link? This was probably the best feature trackers had: you could easily select, out of hundreds of dead torrents, the ones you wanted based on their health(number of seeds/leechers). That's the way I roll anyways. Dunno if magnet links are gonna let you do the same though, since it's all dependant on other peers for information. No peers = no info.

[SniperX]

Usenet- nuff said

[Oen386]

SniperX said:

Usenet- nuff said

Shh they aren't on to it yet!