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Posted 27 October 2004 - 11:44 PM

So I finally got off my ass and installed the free version of 3DMark05, after my co-worker who is also a a PC gamer insisted i benchmark the new system. So I run the test(3 visual, 2 CPU i think), and the first visual test is remarkably slow, like 5-6 FPS slow. I'm like, ok, mabye it's just pushing it hard to find it's limit. I had never used any benchmarking utility before, so I didn't know what to expect. 2nd visual test does the same, but at like 3-4 FPS, max. 3rd and final one is horrendous, at 1-2 FPS max. Finally the CPU tests come, and for some reason the screen now shifted 2 inches to the right, leaving a large black margin on the left. This time it's measuring at about 7 FPS, the highest the utility has hit so far. Then finally the 2nd CPU test runs and it's straight 1 FPS the entire test. 1546 marks was the score I believe, which I have no clue if that's good or not, i'm guessing no.
What's wierd is this system has not shown any sign of slowness in video intensive or CPU intensive processes. CS:Source runs at 75 fps during the stress test, and UT2k4 almost matches that at like 60-70, both at high graphic settings.
It's a P4 2.4c, Asus p4p800se, 512mb pc2700 kingston hyperx ram, WD 80gb MD, Sapphire Radeon 9600XT 128mb, which isn't horrible by any means. Am I doing something wrong with the utility, or is that really my honest score?

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Posted 28 October 2004 - 12:06 AM

no that is an accurate score for your system. I have a 2500+ @ 2.39 ghz, 2x512mb corsair xms pc3200c2 (2-2-2-11) and a BFG 6800 @ 407/815 and I barely break 4000. I get about 10,300 in 2003 and 18,500 in 2001.

also, is your cpu overclocked? some of the 2.4c's with the M0 stepping have been known to hit the upper 3 ghz range.

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Posted 28 October 2004 - 12:17 AM

nope, completely stock settings, I don't really plan to OC the system. I honestly don't think it's necessary.

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Posted 28 October 2004 - 12:33 AM

Also, you are using PC2700 ram with a 200mhz fsb cpu...you should be using PC3200. You're bottlenecking the cpu to about 83% of what it would normally perform at stock.

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Posted 28 October 2004 - 12:59 AM

200mhz fsb? I believe it was listed as a 533mhz. I went with the reccommended RAM in the Asus manual, which was PC-2700. I was told by many people that PC-3200 would be overkill, especially since i'm not OCing.

EDIT: And I made a typo in the original post. It's a P4 2.4A Prescott. 533FSB.

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Posted 28 October 2004 - 03:40 AM

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200mhz fsb? I believe it was listed as a 533mhz. I went with the reccommended RAM in the Asus manual, which was PC-2700. I was told by many people that PC-3200 would be overkill, especially since i'm not OCing.

EDIT: And I made a typo in the original post. It's a P4 2.4A Prescott. 533FSB.


There is no such thing as a 2.4A 533FSB Prescott P4 core. The Prescott cores are the ones that run at 800 FSB, not 533. The Northwoods run 533.

You obviously have encountered the whole reason why no one uses 3d mark anymore, because it doesn't actutally benchmark on real game situations. As you have experienced, your system runs the latest games just fine, but when it comes to the latest benchmarks, it's not exactly up to par.

There's a reason why no reviewer sites anymore post 3d mark scores, but only results from the latest games. Why? Because people don't play benchmarks, they play GAMES!!

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Posted 28 October 2004 - 07:36 AM

Amazing, so this processor, which newegg sold me in a retail box does not exist.
http://www.newegg.co...-116-178&depa=0

Intel Pentium 4/ 2.4A GHz 533MHz FSB, Prescott Core, 1MB L2 Cache - Retail

Model# BX80546PE2400E
Item # N82E16819116178

Specifications:
Model: Intel Pentium 4
Core: Prescott
Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
FSB: 533MHz
Cache: L1/12K+16K, L2/1MB
Socket: Socket 478
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
Warranty: 3-year MFG
Packaging: Retail (with Heatsink/Fan)

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Posted 28 October 2004 - 08:54 AM

im all about 2001 still :)
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Posted 28 October 2004 - 10:29 AM

tone said:

There's a reason why no reviewer sites anymore post 3d mark scores, but only results from the latest games. Why? Because people don't play benchmarks, they play GAMES!!


What are you talking about? Nearly EVERY reviewer uses 3dmark as a medium for comparing different video cards. It's also very useful for anyone who tries to get the most out of their PC as possible, and it's also a good way to see if your PC is up to par with others' of similar specs (and therefore working properly).

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Posted 28 October 2004 - 11:29 AM

sog said:

im all about 2001 still :)

yea my machines up to date when i use the 2001 :biggrin:
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Posted 28 October 2004 - 12:04 PM

I get 3006 on 3dmark, I use the latest Omega drivers based on the Beta Cat drivers.
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Posted 28 October 2004 - 12:41 PM

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Amazing, so this processor, which newegg sold me in a retail box does not exist.
http://www.newegg.co...-116-178&depa=0

Intel Pentium 4/ 2.4A GHz 533MHz FSB, Prescott Core, 1MB L2 Cache - Retail

Model# BX80546PE2400E
Item # N82E16819116178

Specifications:
Model: Intel Pentium 4
Core: Prescott
Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
FSB: 533MHz
Cache: L1/12K+16K, L2/1MB
Socket: Socket 478
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
Warranty: 3-year MFG
Packaging: Retail (with Heatsink/Fan)


Yeah, I know it says, that, but there is a reason why it's only $123 RETAIL BOXED. I bought my 2.4B Northword P4 over a year ago for over $177 that was just OEM with 30 days warranty.

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Posted 28 October 2004 - 12:43 PM

I fail to see your logic in that. Because the price over the course of one year has dropped, my processor is not what newegg states it as?

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Posted 29 October 2004 - 12:16 AM

hold on you confused me what about ur processor and what about a year huh?
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Posted 29 October 2004 - 01:16 AM

Tone claims my processor does not exist, even though it's sold on newegg in a retail box.
This is where i get slightly confused too. What does the price of the processor have anything to do with this conversation? More so, what does the price of HIS processor a year ago have anything to do with this conversation?

I'm as lost as you at this point, his last post made no sense in terms of the discussion.

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Posted 29 October 2004 - 09:22 AM

o ok back to 3Penis'


1796 hahaha comparing ur alls scores that pathetic <---- off the old site with stock drivers
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