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Posted 10 May 2005 - 10:59 AM

"we own the rights to 'ucf'"

bullshit they do.

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"If you don't defend your copyright you lose it." -- "Somebody has that name copyrighted!"
False. Copyright is effectively never lost these days, unless explicitly given away. You also can't "copyright a name" or anything short like that, such as almost all titles. You may be thinking of trade marks, which apply to names, and can be weakened or lost if not defended.

You generally trademark terms by using them to refer to your brand of a generic type of product or service. Like an "Apple" computer. Apple Computer "owns" that word applied to computers, even though it is also an ordinary word. Apple Records owns it when applied to music. Neither owns the word on its own, only in context, and owning a mark doesn't mean complete control -- see a more detailed treatise on this law for details.

You can't use somebody else's trademark in a way that would steal the value of the mark, or in a way that might make people confuse you with the real owner of the mark, or which might allow you to profit from the mark's good name. For example, if I were giving advice on music videos, I would be very wary of trying to label my works with a name like "mtv." :-) You can use marks to critcise or parody the holder, as long as it's clear you aren't the holder.


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Posted 10 May 2005 - 12:32 PM

GIVE IT UP AND LET IT GO. You are fighting a battle you can never win. Constant bitching about it on a forum isn't going to accomplish anything.

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Posted 10 May 2005 - 12:33 PM

What's this all about anyway?

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Posted 10 May 2005 - 01:04 PM

sounds good to me, down with the man. i liked ucfgaming alot better than lan knights
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Posted 10 May 2005 - 01:43 PM

for once i agree with the emo kid .. let it go, nothing we can do about it and since we already made the change .. why bother going back, too much hassel
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Posted 10 May 2005 - 01:50 PM

Also, "You can't use somebody else's trademark in a way that would steal the value of the mark, or in a way that might make people confuse you with the real owner of the mark, or which might allow you to profit from the mark's good name."

That's what they can get you with, because even though you're using the name for defining the location, it is still being used to establish a connection between the 2 entities. Apple Computers and Apple music have no relation to each other, but UCF and UCFGaming do.

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Posted 10 May 2005 - 05:29 PM

we cant win this really unless someone has a friend thats a lawyer. we dont want the prez and vice prez to have holds on their accounts. its not worth the fight anymore unfortunately
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Posted 11 May 2005 - 12:10 AM

man, thats the man talkin.. who needs grades and sucess when we can have our original, better name back
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Posted 11 May 2005 - 08:37 AM

I realize the holds on their records sucked. But if there hadn't been any holds I would be very pissed if we didn't fight them about this. It seems ridiculous that they can bully us into letting an acronym be copyrighted.
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Posted 11 May 2005 - 09:39 AM

my point wasnt to try and fight it, just to point out how ucf is one collective jackass
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Posted 11 May 2005 - 07:43 PM

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 05:49 PM

ya ucf is a massive douche bag...
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Posted 12 May 2005 - 09:08 PM

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Also, "You can't use somebody else's trademark in a way that would steal the value of the mark, or in a way that might make people confuse you with the real owner of the mark, or which might allow you to profit from the mark's good name."

That's what they can get you with, because even though you're using the name for defining the location, it is still being used to establish a connection between the 2 entities. Apple Computers and Apple music have no relation to each other, but UCF and UCFGaming do.


This is correct, especially the "or in a way that might make people confuse you with the real owner of the mark" line. UCF Gaming was/is a club that was directly affilated with UCF and had real ties with the university, not to mention the fact that events of others clubs have been confused with official university functions in the past.
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Posted 10 May 2005 - 10:59 AM

"we own the rights to 'ucf'"

bullshit they do.

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"If you don't defend your copyright you lose it." -- "Somebody has that name copyrighted!"
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You can't use somebody else's trademark in a way that would steal the value of the mark, or in a way that might make people confuse you with the real owner of the mark, or which might allow you to profit from the mark's good name. For example, if I were giving advice on music videos, I would be very wary of trying to label my works with a name like "mtv." :-) You can use marks to critcise or parody the holder, as long as it's clear you aren't the holder.


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Posted 10 May 2005 - 12:32 PM

GIVE IT UP AND LET IT GO. You are fighting a battle you can never win. Constant bitching about it on a forum isn't going to accomplish anything.

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Posted 10 May 2005 - 12:33 PM

What's this all about anyway?

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Posted 10 May 2005 - 01:04 PM

sounds good to me, down with the man. i liked ucfgaming alot better than lan knights
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Posted 10 May 2005 - 01:43 PM

for once i agree with the emo kid .. let it go, nothing we can do about it and since we already made the change .. why bother going back, too much hassel
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Posted 10 May 2005 - 01:50 PM

Also, "You can't use somebody else's trademark in a way that would steal the value of the mark, or in a way that might make people confuse you with the real owner of the mark, or which might allow you to profit from the mark's good name."

That's what they can get you with, because even though you're using the name for defining the location, it is still being used to establish a connection between the 2 entities. Apple Computers and Apple music have no relation to each other, but UCF and UCFGaming do.

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Posted 10 May 2005 - 05:29 PM

we cant win this really unless someone has a friend thats a lawyer. we dont want the prez and vice prez to have holds on their accounts. its not worth the fight anymore unfortunately
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